i love chuck hagel and all of that. he's made great sacrifices in the surface, but anyone who joins the group that says we want to have a nuclear free world sounds so good, but you don't lead by example. you don't say we're going to do away with tears because they may know china and russia and north korea and iran are all going to do away with the capabilities. so that's one of the objections i have two chuck hagel, his nomination. >> host: u.s.a. to the papers he would reach a filibuster against his nomination. it looks according to the "baltimore sun" that all circuits are democrats and two of your colleagues are also going to support his nomination. in in fact it can be 60. >> guest: let me correct your first spirit are not filibustering. i have to do is demand a 60-vote margin. i'm doing that. in fact, almost all controversial appointments. cabinet level appointments end up with a 60-vote margin. yeah, you may be right. they may be right there and if so you'll see people change their votes so they can be in the prev